Curse

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 16, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

I was thinking about this one, it probably would have been better for factions, because of the sort of japanese feel, I am currently trying to think of skills for it and attributes.

I have a few ideas right now, maybe if it's good enough some people can help me.
anyway...

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Weapons:
Knifes (don't ask)
kinda a cross between daggers and swords. Max dmg, 9-36

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Attributes:
erm... this is hard but I'll try...

Chi (primary): For every 5 points in the Chi attribute is +1 energy regeneration.
Knife Handling: Improves skills on using your knifes.

all I can think of.

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Armor:
Starter Armor (Squire's Armor) - AL: 10 looks like http://www.zephyr.dti.ne.jp/~runo/samurai3.jpg

Imperial Armor - http://www.midnighteye.com/features/...cinema_101.jpg

Discourager's Armor - http://www.samurai-store.com/img/top/cpp_1.jpg (one on the Left)

Empowering Armor - http://www.samurai-store.com/img/top/cpp_1.jpg (one on the right)

Max armor: 105 (-15 if chi is under 10)
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I will have more ideas after getting feedback.

actionjack · Sep 16, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

BK will help you

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 16, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

is it a good idea lol?

Renegade26 · Sep 16, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Increasing energy regeneration suggests the use of spells, so a set of skills that would use spells to deal damage, but this sounds like an assassin tbh.

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 16, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

AHA, but it's different to assassin, oh, just cause the weapon's like daggers eh, well, I haven't come up with the different attributes and spells yet, it'll be way different to assasin that way.

Giga Strike · Sep 16, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02

a true samurai would be too simalar to a warrior. i cant support this.

skylyn · Sep 16, 2006, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Rage against Tanks...and wannabe Tanks

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 16, 2006, 09:44 PM // 21:44

whoever BK is, HELP

!

actionjack · Sep 16, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01

BK is BahamutKaiser, who also have a love fo Samurai.

Since BK is not around...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3004827

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...search=samurai

There you go.

Would like to see you develop more on you own version, but those reference might help. Also be sure not to make another warrior/Assassin clone.

Ps: whos the girl in your avatar, Skylyn?

BahamutKaiser · Sep 17, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

LOL, naughty AJ, soliciting my help :P, bah really, it saves me the trouble.

Current judgement is, work on it some more, there isn't even enough here to comment on.

Lynxius · Sep 17, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addone_Abbadon

Weapons:
Knifes (don't ask)
kinda a cross between daggers and swords. Max dmg, 9-36

Youre forgetting the Samurai's most important weapon, the Katana.

But nice suggestion.

/signed

AJM · Sep 17, 2006, 03:55 AM // 03:55

NO!!!

This is not FFXI, and it is not anime. Nor should it be! We already have an oriental-themed chapter, with two new professions (we have WAY more than enough sins who think they're Naruto or something), and we don't need this, especially since it is, as has been pointed out, redundant. It's not really much different from a warrior.

/absolutely, positively, NOT SIGNED

I see enough Japan worship on the internet already. More than enough.

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 17, 2006, 04:04 AM // 04:04

1. I wasn't basing him on anime.
2.I've never played any of the FF games
3. I said he is not gonna be anything like the warrior.

AJM · Sep 17, 2006, 04:13 AM // 04:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon

1. I wasn't basing him on anime.
2.I've never played any of the FF games
3. I said he is not gonna be anything like the warrior.

1. You don't need to be. If you add in samurai, people will make that connection and go off an a Japan-worship spree, which would make me and I'm sure many others want to vomit on their keyboards. Even barring that, people will think it is anime-based and start making all sorts of idiotic suggestions that other idiots will agree with.
2. Your point is?
3. So far he sure seems to be. How will he be different, then?

Sorry if I seem rude, but I'm extremely passionate about this. If samurai had been a core class, let's say, I wouldn't have ever bought Guild Wars. I'd go 'oh, more Japanophile garbage' and never give it a second thought. I loathe Japan-worshippers. I think they should all go to Japan and get beaten up by the Yakuza after losing all their money on pachinko machines and having Japanese people laugh at them for being stupid Westerners. Let's see if they feel the same way after that.

This would look like an invitation to them.

I'm going to stop now before I go off on a huge, enraged rant... a bigger one, anyway.

lightblade · Sep 17, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

another samurai/ninja thread...are you people that obsessed with with these things?

-Loki- · Sep 17, 2006, 01:41 PM // 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon

3. I said he is not gonna be anything like the warrior.

Then he's not going to be much like a Samurai is he? A Samurai that's main weapon is not a Katana (and is, in fact, a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing knife?) and is not focussed on high melee damage? A Samurai wouldn't be exactly like a Warrior if it existed in Guild Wars, but it would certainly still be a melee damage dealer, and would certainly not use a knife. It would pretty much be a lower armoured Warrior with no shield, and likely use stances to stay alive (woah, stance tank reference). It could also mix it up by giving it a few weapon masteries, like melee spear and swordsmanship.

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 17, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

I think I might lower the armor to 70, cause samurai armor is more or less supposed to scare the attacker in real life.

so AL70

ValaOfTheFens · Sep 17, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Real Samurai are a cross between a Warrior and a Ranger. While a Samurai was on horseback his primary weapon was the Bow. Once he was on the ground he would use his Katana(and perhaps a Wakisashi?). Samurai armor is somewhat lighter than a Warrior's would be so it would provide a significantly less protection than a Warrior's but he would be faster and able to deliver more blows.

Note: Japanese smiths are fiercely dedicated to creating the best swords possible. I've read that some would say 1,000 prayers over the sword or meditate under a waterfall before forging one. So I'd expect something like a hilt that either adds some sort of elemental damage plus the usual hilts of Fortitude, etc. The elemental hilts wouldn't be common and the elemental damage would have a max of a 17% chance of happening.

Tommy · Sep 17, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

a samurai should have 80 AL, use 2 handed swords and 3 regen for mana, they can't use shield, so they got less armor than warrior and their armors provide +hp or + energy instead the +20 armor vs xxx bonus warriors have. their skills should be energy-base.
and they should have skills that sacrifice thier hp to reflect damage. lets say sacrifice all his hp until hp 1 and the foes taks 80% of damage what he sacrificed. BTW not all samurai use sword

there is samurai who use guns and spear

Soldat · Sep 17, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15

/notsigned
cant see much time/effort put into this.
Also, the knife does way too much dmg for a "cross between daggers and swords". Don't u think swords are more deadly than a pocket-knife? Even if i did support this CC, it wouldn't really fit into the storyline, cuz they alrdy had a Japanese-themed campaign.